“In this week’s episode, host Mark Leonard is joined by Elizabeth Rosenberg, Senior Fellow and Director of the Energy, Economics, and Security Program at the Center for a New American Security, Jean Pisani-Ferry, ECFR Council Member and a senior fellow at Brussels-based think-tank Bruegel and Jonathan Hackenbroich, ECFR policy fellow for economic statecraft and the head of ECFR’s Task Force for Protecting Europe from Economic Coercion to discuss how Europe could build up higher economic resilience. How can the Union best redress market distortions caused by sanctions, export controls and other forms of economic coercion? And can deterrence actually work?”

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